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DerpyHooves- Filthy, after the fiasco with the National Org, why should anyone trust you with anything?

Liquid_Oxygen- 5 minutes

FilthyRich- Well, this is a good question.

FilthyRich- This term, I have installed safeguards -- or will be installing safeguards to keep my ass out of that org -- at all costs.

FilthyRich- a) The Secretary of the Treasury will be approved by Congress, not just myself.

FilthyRich- b) I will not have the org password past the first 12 hours of my administration.

FilthyRich- c) If I need funds,  I will have to go through Congress to get them.

FilthyRich- Basically, I won't have access to the shit -- but on another note -- I made money for the National Org, just sayin'.

FilthyRich- That is all.


Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, 2 minutes reaction

Sermok- alright

Sermok- The last thing we want is more procedure

Sermok- B and C are just bad ideas

Sermok- a 12 hour wait is nothing if you want to steal money or dammage the economy

Sermok- let it be clear that it wasn't a mistake that he made doing it

Sermok- it deliberatly changed the peg

Sermok- without warning and cheated some people out of their money

Sermok- so that the national org "could make money"

Liquid_Oxygen- Time.

Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel, reaction: two minutes

Akhraziel- Ok so for b

Akhraziel- how would we know that you did this?

Akhraziel- It would be your word and your SoT's word that we would have to base that on

Akhraziel- and frankly after the fiasco

Akhraziel- most people arent willing to trust your word

Akhraziel- Second, I agree with Sermok

Akhraziel- in that I believe that it wasnt an accident but was a deliberate act

Akhraziel- and I dont think we should reward someone who did this
Akhraziel- by electing them to the Presidency

Akhraziel- done

Liquid_Oxygen- Thank you, Akhraziel

Liquid_Oxygen- FilthyRich 2 minute rebuttal

FilthyRich- The term fiasco is rather overblowing it.

FilthyRich- My records indicate a total of 60g was moved around -- not spent -- not lost -- merely moved around for a minor profit.

FilthyRich- Secondly, Devoid hates my ass.

FilthyRich- He wouldn't lie about locking me out -- he's already done so once before.

FilthyRich- Lastly, it was a deliberate act. I intended on making money -- I didn't consult the higher powers. No one was "ripped"  -- they received the current market price for their gold/USD.

Liquid_Oxygen- Time!

Fionia- next question will be for Sermok

Fionia- What do you feel about the current NAP with russia? do you plan on renegotiating? do you think it's benefited the country?

Liquid_Oxygen- 5 minutes

Sermok- okay

Sermok- So the nap is tied into our rental agreement with them for 75g a month

Sermok- we all want to get cali back

Sermok- anyone who says otherwise is either deaf dumb or blind

Sermok- and we don't have to be scared of talking about this anymore

Sermok- but russia won't give it up for anything

Sermok-its the 13th highest worth region in the game

Sermok- and the cornerstone of their empire

Sermok- the only way that we can get back the regions realisticaly is joining tm and taking it by force

Sermok- which would be a horrible choice

Sermok- whats to say in a few months the war goes badly and we get re wiped

Sermok- russia won't offer us the same deal again

Sermok- we'll be in the same place that mexico is in

Sermok- by keeping the region to russia

Sermok- it gives us a lot of flexability

Sermok- and a good monthly income all the same

Sermok- the nation wouldn't be anywhere that we are now without it

Sermok- its a bad situation

Sermok- but we can only make the best of it

Sermok- done

Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel reaction 2 minutes

Akhraziel- There are actually quite a few ways that we can get Russia to give up Pacific Coast

Akhraziel- We can assist them in acquiring another high iron region

Akhraziel- (which Norway currently possess)

Akhraziel- in return for our two regions

Akhraziel- Done

Liquid_Oxygen- FilthyRich, you're up!

Liquid_Oxygen- 2 minutes

FilthyRich- Alright then.

FilthyRich-Correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that Congress has based some of our budget on the rental fees currently received from Russia. I also see Russia as a generous patron -- rather than an oppressor. We have a high region that makes it cheaper for the average citizen to purchase food and fight -- thus increasing damage output.

FilthyRich- Another note -- I do not agree on locking ourselves into any military alliance or bloc -- as in women, I like more than one choice.

FilthyRich- That is all.

Liquid_Oxygen- Thank you

Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, rebuttal 2 minutes

Sermok- okay

Sermok- akhraziels idea is a no go

Sermok- and I don't understand why he would propose it

Sermok- russia isn't going to give up the 13th best region in the game in the safest place in the world

Sermok- for a almost non developed region on the far side of sweden

Sermok- a country that hates russia

Sermok- and as for fr

Sermok- russia is our enemy

Sermok- make no mistake

Sermok- they're polite and they've been good to us

Sermok- but they want the pacific coast more then anything

Liquid_Oxygen- Time

Sermok- and they're willing to do anything to keep it

DerpyHooves- Alrighty.

DerpyHooves- Akhraziel, you've haven't released a lot of information during your campaign, declared pretty late and now have been pretty quiet for the debate. What gives? Why should anyone vote for a candidate that hasn't really articulated any position other than a foreign policy article?

DerpyHooves- 5 minutes

Akhraziel- Well, I was planning on releasing an article tonight but I mistakenly hit the wrong key and it was deleted

Akhraziel- However,

Akhraziel- why should people vote for me?

Akhraziel- I have more governmental experience than Sermok

Akhraziel- and am not tainted by a fiasco like FilthyRich

Akhraziel- I plan to release all of my plans further tonight

Akhraziel- as well as release them through this debate

Akhraziel- done

DerpyHooves-So, hold on

Liquid_Oxygen- Alright, Filthy, reaction?

Fionia- Sermok, 2 minute reaction

Fionia- or filthy

FilthyRich- Erm

DerpyHooves- lol

Liquid_Oxygen- Oop. My bad.

FilthyRich-Ok then.

DerpyHooves- Filthy it is

FilthyRich- Well, I agree that my background is some what tainted -- but people can change. I assure you of this.

FilthyRich- As for your cabinet -- I agree wholly with your cabinet -- and if I weren't including some newer people -- I would have a very similar cabinet.

FilthyRich- I applaud your planning -- and I do not find you in the least bit "silent".

FilthyRich- You are more highly skilled than Sermok -- of course.

FilthyRich- However, I dislike the fact that you point to my taint -- rather than my previous experience.

FilthyRich- That is all, thank you.

Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, you're up 2 minutes

Sermok- alright

Sermok- to FR

Sermok- you don't have a taint on your background

Sermok- you were given the publics trust and you broke it

Sermok- without your word you are nothing

Sermok- and I don't think that experience is the only thing that someone needs to be president

Sermok- you can suround yourself with experience

DerpyHooves- Hey

DerpyHooves- Reaction to Az

DerpyHooves- Not Filthy

Sermok- oh yeah

Sermok- I was going to say az

Liquid_Oxygen- Too late. =P Time

Sermok- but my point is tht you can't do anything about your drive to be president

Sermok- alright

Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel, your rebuttal. 2 minutes.

DerpyHooves- If any members of the audience have questions for the candidates, please PM them to either me or Fi

Akhraziel-To Filthy Rich: I have included younger players as well

Akhraziel- George Patton is my SoS

DerpyHooves- Please don't barrage us with crap.

Akhraziel- and I have many younger players as deputies where they can learn

Akhraziel- instead of being immediately thrusted into action

Akhraziel- too Sermok

Akhraziel- I agree that a strong cabinet makes up for a weak candidate

Akhraziel- however

Akhraziel- an experienced president surrounded by a strong cabinet is even better

Akhraziel- done

Liquid_Oxygen- k

Liquid_Oxygen- Moving along

Liquid_Oxygen- I believe Derpy has a question from LillVigge?

DerpyHooves- The next portion is 5 minute open response to audience questions.

DerpyHooves- All candidates are free to discuss at the same time for 5 minutes.

DerpyHooves- 20:28       LillVigge       What will be your biggest focus if you get elected? 20:28       LillVigge       and 20:29       LillVigge       Please sum up your goals for next term in one sentence

DerpyHooves- Five minutes, kids.

FilthyRich- In the good way.

Sermok- Improve our standing in the world and solidify our place there

Sermok- despite all our fire and our ambition we're still an extremly fragile country thats months behind the rest of the world in developing mu's and an economy

Sermok- I want to change that

FilthyRich- Shuffle, goose step to the left, goose step to the right, shuffle, turn to the left, hop four times -- invade Canada -- push a larger and better funded DoI at lower level players.

Sermok- and make a difference every day around the world

Fionia- Akhraziel: answer?

Akhraziel- I will focus on creating a new alliance

Akhraziel- that will help to secure the United States

Akhraziel- against potential aggressors


Akhraziel- have you considered what making a new alliance would mean to our new alpha allies?

Sermok- or our TM allies?

FilthyRich- > allies

FilthyRich- You mean strategic partners?

DerpyHooves- You guys can kill each other, too.

DerpyHooves- j/s

* FilthyRich pulls out a sword.

* FilthyRich stabs Sermok in a flurry (+2)

FilthyRich- I think this leaves two serious candidates.

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