DerpyHooves- Filthy, after the fiasco with the National Org, why should anyone trust you with anything?
Liquid_Oxygen- 5 minutes
FilthyRich- Well, this is a good question.
FilthyRich- This term, I have installed safeguards -- or will be installing safeguards to keep my ass out of that org -- at all costs.
FilthyRich- a) The Secretary of the Treasury will be approved by Congress, not just myself.
FilthyRich- b) I will not have the org password past the first 12 hours of my administration.
FilthyRich- c) If I need funds, I will have to go through Congress to get them.
FilthyRich- Basically, I won't have access to the shit -- but on another note -- I made money for the National Org, just sayin'.
FilthyRich- That is all.
Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, 2 minutes reaction
Sermok- alright
Sermok- The last thing we want is more procedure
Sermok- B and C are just bad ideas
Sermok- a 12 hour wait is nothing if you want to steal money or dammage the economy
Sermok- let it be clear that it wasn't a mistake that he made doing it
Sermok- it deliberatly changed the peg
Sermok- without warning and cheated some people out of their money
Sermok- so that the national org "could make money"
Liquid_Oxygen- Time.
Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel, reaction: two minutes
Akhraziel- Ok so for b
Akhraziel- how would we know that you did this?
Akhraziel- It would be your word and your SoT's word that we would have to base that on
Akhraziel- and frankly after the fiasco
Akhraziel- most people arent willing to trust your word
Akhraziel- Second, I agree with Sermok
Akhraziel- in that I believe that it wasnt an accident but was a deliberate act
Akhraziel- and I dont think we should reward someone who did this
Akhraziel- by electing them to the Presidency
Akhraziel- done
Liquid_Oxygen- Thank you, Akhraziel
Liquid_Oxygen- FilthyRich 2 minute rebuttal
FilthyRich- The term fiasco is rather overblowing it.
FilthyRich- My records indicate a total of 60g was moved around -- not spent -- not lost -- merely moved around for a minor profit.
FilthyRich- Secondly, Devoid hates my ass.
FilthyRich- He wouldn't lie about locking me out -- he's already done so once before.
FilthyRich- Lastly, it was a deliberate act. I intended on making money -- I didn't consult the higher powers. No one was "ripped" -- they received the current market price for their gold/USD.
Liquid_Oxygen- Time!
Fionia- next question will be for Sermok
Fionia- What do you feel about the current NAP with russia? do you plan on renegotiating? do you think it's benefited the country?
Liquid_Oxygen- 5 minutes
Sermok- okay
Sermok- So the nap is tied into our rental agreement with them for 75g a month
Sermok- we all want to get cali back
Sermok- anyone who says otherwise is either deaf dumb or blind
Sermok- and we don't have to be scared of talking about this anymore
Sermok- but russia won't give it up for anything
Sermok-its the 13th highest worth region in the game
Sermok- and the cornerstone of their empire
Sermok- the only way that we can get back the regions realisticaly is joining tm and taking it by force
Sermok- which would be a horrible choice
Sermok- whats to say in a few months the war goes badly and we get re wiped
Sermok- russia won't offer us the same deal again
Sermok- we'll be in the same place that mexico is in
Sermok- by keeping the region to russia
Sermok- it gives us a lot of flexability
Sermok- and a good monthly income all the same
Sermok- the nation wouldn't be anywhere that we are now without it
Sermok- its a bad situation
Sermok- but we can only make the best of it
Sermok- done
Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel reaction 2 minutes
Akhraziel- There are actually quite a few ways that we can get Russia to give up Pacific Coast
Akhraziel- We can assist them in acquiring another high iron region
Akhraziel- (which Norway currently possess)
Akhraziel- in return for our two regions
Akhraziel- Done
Liquid_Oxygen- FilthyRich, you're up!
Liquid_Oxygen- 2 minutes
FilthyRich- Alright then.
FilthyRich-Correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that Congress has based some of our budget on the rental fees currently received from Russia. I also see Russia as a generous patron -- rather than an oppressor. We have a high region that makes it cheaper for the average citizen to purchase food and fight -- thus increasing damage output.
FilthyRich- Another note -- I do not agree on locking ourselves into any military alliance or bloc -- as in women, I like more than one choice.
FilthyRich- That is all.
Liquid_Oxygen- Thank you
Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, rebuttal 2 minutes
Sermok- okay
Sermok- akhraziels idea is a no go
Sermok- and I don't understand why he would propose it
Sermok- russia isn't going to give up the 13th best region in the game in the safest place in the world
Sermok- for a almost non developed region on the far side of sweden
Sermok- a country that hates russia
Sermok- and as for fr
Sermok- russia is our enemy
Sermok- make no mistake
Sermok- they're polite and they've been good to us
Sermok- but they want the pacific coast more then anything
Liquid_Oxygen- Time
Sermok- and they're willing to do anything to keep it
DerpyHooves- Alrighty.
DerpyHooves- Akhraziel, you've haven't released a lot of information during your campaign, declared pretty late and now have been pretty quiet for the debate. What gives? Why should anyone vote for a candidate that hasn't really articulated any position other than a foreign policy article?
DerpyHooves- 5 minutes
Akhraziel- Well, I was planning on releasing an article tonight but I mistakenly hit the wrong key and it was deleted
Akhraziel- However,
Akhraziel- why should people vote for me?
Akhraziel- I have more governmental experience than Sermok
Akhraziel- and am not tainted by a fiasco like FilthyRich
Akhraziel- I plan to release all of my plans further tonight
Akhraziel- as well as release them through this debate
Akhraziel- done
DerpyHooves-So, hold on
Liquid_Oxygen- Alright, Filthy, reaction?
Fionia- Sermok, 2 minute reaction
Fionia- or filthy
FilthyRich- Erm
DerpyHooves- lol
Liquid_Oxygen- Oop. My bad.
FilthyRich-Ok then.
DerpyHooves- Filthy it is
FilthyRich- Well, I agree that my background is some what tainted -- but people can change. I assure you of this.
FilthyRich- As for your cabinet -- I agree wholly with your cabinet -- and if I weren't including some newer people -- I would have a very similar cabinet.
FilthyRich- I applaud your planning -- and I do not find you in the least bit "silent".
FilthyRich- You are more highly skilled than Sermok -- of course.
FilthyRich- However, I dislike the fact that you point to my taint -- rather than my previous experience.
FilthyRich- That is all, thank you.
Liquid_Oxygen- Sermok, you're up 2 minutes
Sermok- alright
Sermok- to FR
Sermok- you don't have a taint on your background
Sermok- you were given the publics trust and you broke it
Sermok- without your word you are nothing
Sermok- and I don't think that experience is the only thing that someone needs to be president
Sermok- you can suround yourself with experience
DerpyHooves- Hey
DerpyHooves- Reaction to Az
DerpyHooves- Not Filthy
Sermok- oh yeah
Sermok- I was going to say az
Liquid_Oxygen- Too late. =P Time
Sermok- but my point is tht you can't do anything about your drive to be president
Sermok- alright
Liquid_Oxygen- Akhraziel, your rebuttal. 2 minutes.
DerpyHooves- If any members of the audience have questions for the candidates, please PM them to either me or Fi
Akhraziel-To Filthy Rich: I have included younger players as well
Akhraziel- George Patton is my SoS
DerpyHooves- Please don't barrage us with crap.
Akhraziel- and I have many younger players as deputies where they can learn
Akhraziel- instead of being immediately thrusted into action
Akhraziel- too Sermok
Akhraziel- I agree that a strong cabinet makes up for a weak candidate
Akhraziel- however
Akhraziel- an experienced president surrounded by a strong cabinet is even better
Akhraziel- done
Liquid_Oxygen- k
Liquid_Oxygen- Moving along
Liquid_Oxygen- I believe Derpy has a question from LillVigge?
DerpyHooves- The next portion is 5 minute open response to audience questions.
DerpyHooves- All candidates are free to discuss at the same time for 5 minutes.
DerpyHooves- 20:28 LillVigge What will be your biggest focus if you get elected? 20:28 LillVigge and 20:29 LillVigge Please sum up your goals for next term in one sentence
DerpyHooves- Five minutes, kids.
FilthyRich- In the good way.
Sermok- Improve our standing in the world and solidify our place there
Sermok- despite all our fire and our ambition we're still an extremly fragile country thats months behind the rest of the world in developing mu's and an economy
Sermok- I want to change that
FilthyRich- Shuffle, goose step to the left, goose step to the right, shuffle, turn to the left, hop four times -- invade Canada -- push a larger and better funded DoI at lower level players.
Sermok- and make a difference every day around the world
Fionia- Akhraziel: answer?
Akhraziel- I will focus on creating a new alliance
Akhraziel- that will help to secure the United States
Akhraziel- against potential aggressors
Akhraziel- have you considered what making a new alliance would mean to our new alpha allies?
Sermok- or our TM allies?
FilthyRich- > allies
FilthyRich- You mean strategic partners?
DerpyHooves- You guys can kill each other, too.
DerpyHooves- j/s
* FilthyRich pulls out a sword.
* FilthyRich stabs Sermok in a flurry (+2)
FilthyRich- I think this leaves two serious candidates.
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