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http://e-sim.org/article.html?id=6143
Soon we will see an "answer" from one player of Republik of Macedonia, wars based on rl between them etc.
Well i don't know if it is right to publish this article. It is my personal view but here is a game..
This is my first and last article about the issue.
Sorry for bad english-mistakes.
Hmmmm this is a difficult issue for admins because they don't want to take a side.
If they support Greeks they will lose F.Y.Republik Of Macedonia players.
If they support F.Y.Republik Of Macedonia they will lose Greek players.
About RL.
1. Macedonia
What i know is that the "tribe" (Slavs ) which they live there now, they went in this regions many centuries(as you can read before : "From the early 6th century they spread to inhabit most of central and eastern Europe and the Balkans." ) after Ancient Macedonias (Take a look here "Although composed of various clans, the Kingdom of Macedon, established around the 8th century BC" ).
They speak a language which based on Cyrillic alphabet and invented by Saints Cyril and Methodius in 9th century!
What about ancient macedonian language ? It seems that exist before slavic tribes came to this regions and it is based on Ancient Greek language.
2.Greeks
About Ancient Greeks. Many of us when we here "Ancient Greeks ", we think that they live in a united country/nation. Right? This is wrong. We have city-states which the biggest of them were enemies. For example Athens(Athenians) and Sparta(Greeks call them Lacedaemonians) were enemies and they are fighting for a long time!
So city-states or poleis (is the same) were independed, sometimes they fought each other BUT they were Greeks. All of them.
Some city-states / poleis :
Athens
Sparta
Corinth
Eretria
Chalcis
Argos
Thebes (which they manage to conquer a signifact part of Ancient Greece for a while)
One of the most known war is peloponnesian war. It is between Athens and Sparta and their allies(well some of them were something like protectorate and not allies!) which were 2 of the strongest cities.
First Peloponnesian War
Second Peloponnesian War
Peloponnesian Warby Thucydides
Although they were enemies, they stop the wars for Olympic Games . Maybe it is strange but they did it!
Notice that "Only free men who spoke Greek were allowed to participate in the Ancient Games of classical times. They were to some extent "international", in the sense that they included athletes from the various Greek city-states. Additionally, participants eventually came from Greek colonies as well, extending the range of the games to far shores of the Mediterranean and of the Black Sea."
If i remember well, Macedonians took part like Athenians, Lacedaemonians(Spartians) etc.
3. Macedonia again(related with bullet 2)
As you can understand we don't talk about a state with "common" borders but about cities-states. So macedonian was one of them?
Lets see what they say here: Ancient Macedonia (just read it. I will not quote anything)
2 important cities is
Pella
Vergina
Both of them Greeks.
Maybe you have heard the name (vergina) due to Sun of Vergina
Sun of Vergina again
As you notice the most of the people have Greek names, there are many relations between the other Ancient Greeks and Macedons.
Also check what Herodotus (also known as Father of History) said about Macedons.
Herodotus History =a lot of reading!
Bonus reading about ancient (greek) tribes (it is related with macedonians)
Ionians
Dorians
Aeolians
Achaeans
They are the 4 more important tribes. There are many others smallers but ok WTF. It is a game here! Go read!!!
Bonus 2 mythology(!) about Macedon
Macedon Mythology
So if macedonian people is linked with one of previous tribes we are talking about Ancient Greeks. So the wars which Philip II (it is greek name), Alexander the Great(born in Pella which is greek city,Aristotle was his teacher) did against the others greek cities(didn't conquer all of them..) is like all the others(athens vs sparta etc). Greek tribes fighting each others!
Although i don't like it, as you see i use wikipedia. If you want to learn history just buy a book, or find e-books and study. Don't wait to learn from wiki! This is not something easy. There are many views and you should try to read as many as you can. And then decide.
My personal view(almost conclusion
)
I believe that Republik of Macedonia is not the same with Ancient Macedonia. I can't see any relation between them. We are talking about different people. The only common is that a part of ancient macedonia is now part of republik of macedonia(don't forget that Greece has another one for this reason they have a region which called "macedonia"
. Only this. So i am sorry they are not macedonians(and to be honest i don't care! Just i love history so i say what i know). Is it wrong to use this name? Yes and No. No if they say that they will not exploit the history of Ancient Macedonia which means Vergina Sun, Great Alexander etc have nothing to do with them. Yes because they will do it because of nationalists which is very very bad(it will cause only war). Maybe it would be better a name like "Republik of North Macedonia" which will be based only on geography, not history.
About (rl) recognition(conclusion!!Yeah!!hahaha)
Well here engage in politics, politician etc. So they don't care what is macedonia or kosovo or taiwan or Cyprus or or or..
Wars, money rule the world! They will not judge by history..
Respect each other, play the game. Don't solve rl issues here.
Admins please be careful with the countries which you choose to bring here.
+1 Republik of Macedonia (FYROM) maybe it is better for both of them here in the game.
ps. I publish this article here because this issue doesn't concern bulgarian community
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sGREECE break the agreement [update D347 H16:00] (13 years ago)
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