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Grexit? Patience with Greece is running out

希腊退出欧元区?它的耐心已经耗尽

Germany owes Greece 279 billion euros in compensation for war damage. At least that's what the Greeks say. The Germans say the claim is nonsense.

德国欠希腊2790亿欧元的战争赔偿款。至少希腊是这样说的。而德国则表示,希腊的要求纯属胡说八道。

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Germany paid Greece 115 million marks in 1960, as required by reparation agreements. On top of that, it also paid compensation directly to individual victims of the Nazi regime in Greece -- forced laborers, for example.

德国在1960年支付希腊1.15亿马克赔款。另外,还向纳粹在希腊制造的受害者个人进行了直接赔偿——比如,强征的劳工。

Berlin says the issue of reparations was settled once and for all by the international treaties that cleared the way for German reunification in 1990.

柏林说,赔款问题在德国1990年重新统一时已经一劳永逸的解决了。

Greece did not lodge a protest against those agreements at the time.

希腊没有理由对当时的协议提出抗议。

But the Greek government now says the 1960 payments were not enough.

但是,希腊政府现在表示,1960年的赔偿并不足够。

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The estimate of damages comes as Germans are losing patience with Greece over its attempts to renegotiate the terms of its massive bailout.

这些伤害评估是在德国失去了与希腊继续进行大规模救助计划谈判的耐心后,提出的。

Germany itself has lent Greece 56 billion euros.

德国单独借给了希腊560亿欧元贷款。

The Greek government has not made any formal request for reparations but opinion polls show a claim would have widespread popular support in Greece, which is struggling to avoid another financial collapse.

希腊政府并没有提出正式的赔款要求,但民意测验表明,这个要求在挣扎于金融崩溃的希腊得到了广泛的民间支持。

But Tspiras went as far as suggesting Greece could start confiscating German assets if Berlin refuses to pay.

但是,亚力希克斯表示,如果柏林拒绝支付赔款,他将建议希腊没收德国资产。

That was described as "bizarre and impertinent" by German media.

这个行为被德国媒体描述为"匪夷所思和无礼的"。

评论:
Amegioa
16 hours ago
Germany needs to stop loaning them money. Greece is the sloppy drunk in the family that feels entitled to everyone's help and what Greece needs is to wake up in the gutter with no one but Greece to count on.

德国需要停止借出他们的钱。希腊就是那种家族里的醉鬼,却还总觉得谁都应该帮他,希腊需要做的就是,从臭水沟里靠自己恢复过来,别总靠别人。

TonyManero
10 hours ago
@Amegioa A banker receiving interest on loan money has calculated the risk/return.

@Amegioa 借款收利息的银行家需要评估风险和收益。

Alexandros Lekkas
8 hours ago
@Amegioa Germany earned millions of dollars from Greece's debt crisis so why to stop loaning?

@Amegioa 德国从希腊的债务危机中赚了数百万美元,那么,为什么要停止放贷呢?

rckymtn4
16 hours ago
Confiscating foreign assets. I see Greece is looking to adopt the Venezuelan model.

没收国外财产。我认为希腊将使用委内瑞拉模式。

DaveIL
15 hours ago
Greece was conquered by the Roman Empire in the 4th century so maybe they could ask for reparations from Italy too.

希腊在公元4世纪被罗马帝国征服,或许,他们也可以向意大利要求赔款。

Josh Ptasznyk
10 hours ago
@DaveIL Could always try asking for reparations from the former countries making up the Persian empire for the damage they did when attempting to invade, even though they won i am sure the govt would spin it to there advantage

@DaveIL 也可以向组成波斯帝国的那些国家要求赔款,因为他们试图入侵并破坏了希腊,即使希腊赢了,我也能确信他们的政府会把自己变成受害者来攫取利益。

Tom Kitta
7 hours ago
@DaveIL Don't give them any ideas.

@DaveIL 不要向他们建议。

Jon Peter
14 hours ago
Sounds like a desperate cry, rather than a voice of reason. German has already paid reparations to Greece as well as to individual citizens. Greece needs to get it's house in order instead of looking for excuses.

听起来像是绝望的呐喊,而不是理性的声音。德国已经向希腊偿还了赔款,也针对个人做了补偿。希腊需要把自己的房子整理好,而不是寻找借口。

booboot1947
15 hours ago
The Greeks are making a serious mistakes. That question was solved by a final payment to Greece years ago.

希腊正在制造一个严重的错误。赔款问题早在N年前就已经被最终解决了。

Alexandros Lekkas
9 hours ago
@booboot1947 do you know that by fact?

@booboot1947 你知道真相吗?

JackNim
7 hours ago
@Alexandros Lekkas @booboot1947 Yes, it is well documented from many sources. Look it up.

@Alexandros Lekkas @booboot1947 是的,很多资料都能证明。查查看。

Thomas Luby
6 hours ago
@Alexandros Lekkas @booboot1947 Go get a body wax you hairy ape.

@Alexandros Lekkas @booboot1947 你这只长毛猿,多涂点蜡吧。

duniawala
13 hours ago
Hey of the Jews can make demands on the practices of the Nazis after all these years, I am sure Greece can demand the same.

既然犹太人能够要求因纳粹的行为进行长年的补偿,我认为希腊人也可以。

imzz
11 hours ago
@duniawala Oh, the Greeks are not ruling America

@duniawala 喔,但希腊人并没有统治美国。

Riaz Zair
12 hours ago
How many $trillions do the zionists of israel owe the entire planet??

犹太复国主义者已经欠了全世界多少万亿美元了??

Harry Robinson
12 hours ago
@Riaz Zair nothing...theyre owed a fortune from Germany and most of the arab states

@Riaz Zair 不。。。。德国人欠他们的,大部分阿拉伯国家也欠他们的。

RonFromNM
11 hours ago
@Riaz Zair Careful Riaz Zair... your anti-semitism is showing. Ironic on an article involving Nazi Germany war crime reparations. Israel has a right to exist.

@Riaz Zair 小心点Riaz Zair先生。。。你正在发表反犹言论。你的讽刺中涉及了纳粹德国战争赔款。还有,以色列是有存在的权力的。

HWOODTX61
12 hours ago
Greece can always start WW III ...

希腊可以发动第三次世界大战。。。

Rich Welsh
3 hours ago
@HWOODTX61 With what? Broken plates and scissor dance?

@HWOODTX61 拿什么发动?摔盘子然后跳剪刀舞吗?

mallorykroll_xo
12 hours ago
If Greece wasn't in serious economic trouble (caused by their own financial mismanagement) they would definitely not be asking for this. Laughable really. Germany paid their reparations to Greece ages ago.

如果希腊没有陷入经济困境(这是他们自己的财政管理造成的),他们就不会要求这些。真是可笑。德国早在多年前就已经偿还过希腊赔款了。

Alexandros Lekkas
9 hours ago
@mallorykroll_xo Germany didn't pay any reparations to any country.

@mallorykroll_xo 德国没有对任何国家支付任何赔款。

Tom Kitta
8 hours ago
@Alexandros Lekkas @mallorykroll_xo They did pay very stingy ones. Greece actually didn't end up so bad given that they didn't have a big loss (comparatively) in the first place.

@Alexandros Lekkas @mallorykroll_xo 他们确实赔偿的很少。考虑到第一波攻击时(相对来说)损失不大,希腊在战争中并没有被破坏的太惨。

Martin7777
7 hours ago
@Alexandros Lekkas @mallorykroll_xo
Dear Alexandros: Read the article above
"Germany paid Greece 115 million marks in 1960, as required by reparation agreements. On top of that, it also paid compensation directly to individual victims of the Nazi regime in Greece -- forced laborers, for example.
Berlin says the issue of reparations was settled once and for all by the international treaties that cleared the way for German reunification in 1990.
Greece did not lodge a protest against those agreements at the time."
@Alexandros Lekkas @mallorykroll_xo

亲爱的Alexandros:读一下上面的文章:)
"德国在1960年支付希腊1.15亿马克赔款。另外,还向纳粹在希腊制造的受害者个人进行了直接赔偿——比如,强征的劳工。
柏林说,赔款问题在德国1990年重新统一时已经一劳永逸的解决了。
希腊没有理由对当时的协议提出抗议。"

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