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日本和越南的保护期马上就要过了,越南基本上可以确定会直接进攻.关于日本是否进攻,目前存在争议.

不管进攻还是不进攻,想必作为本月囧统,我都会被一些玩家喷出翔.所以本人决定过几天开始一次公投,让全体中国玩家一起背这个大黑锅.

这个报纸本身不是投票,只是收集大家的意见和观点,我们欢迎任何留言,并会把它放到报纸里面作为公投的参考.

日本的领土情况如下:
1.有一块高铁,此高铁连接至美国高铁
2.九州跟中国首都直连,但是离高铁比较遥远,地理位置比较特殊
3.本月囧统是波兰人,中国玩家没有成功控制日本,而且坯体哦的难度会越来越大


公投只能有两个选项,第一次我们只选进攻或者不进攻,其余的第二次再选
选项一:进攻日本
包括两个小选项,
1.占领九州
优点:杜绝中国首都被直接攻击的危险.同时可以满足某些玩家的征服感.不耽误其他国家占领高铁,外交上几乎无风险
缺点:让出高铁,国家利益没有最大化
支持者:
不能让别人在我们的家门口发威
e-sim是战争游戏,打打更健康
只占领一块领土,也不会引发太多争端

反对者:
多一处起义需要镇压
反对,占领无人区无端多一个drain,却毫无意义。占领以色列和伊朗是为了打击敌人。占领日本纯粹就是发泄了。
另外以九州链接首都为由去占领日本也太搞笑了。按照这个思路,咱们要占的地就多了



2.占领高铁
优点:包括1,同时保证国家利益最大化,拿到高铁,日后可以跟别国谈判,换取更大的利益
缺点:不确定性较大,易引起纠纷
支持者:
国家利益就是领土和人口,占领高资源领土是国家强盛的根本,日本高铁也是很有潜力的税收来源.
家门口的肥肉,先抢下来,以后是送是还都好说话.
要打就灭族,不打就打经济战。
毛子如果一直有1000人口,就不是现在这样。erep里面SB当年被全EDEN的力量轮攻,似乎也就灭国了一瞬间而已.国家有实力,就算遇到逆境,也会快速的再次崛起。波兰不能占领更多的高铁,是因为他要全力压制立陶宛,而不是不想占。
有种奇怪的观点,我无法理解,诸如:拿太多资源和土地会影响EC国际形象,EC形象本来就不好,地越多敌人越多之类......................为啥给别人拿了咱就有形象?大波波手里那么多地咋没坏了形象?个人认为你能拿多少地只取决于你的国力有多强,国际关系也是一样,强者恒强,弱则被瓜分,谁管你什么形象。需要客观评估的是咱自身的真正实力,在此基础上积极谋取利益最大化。


反对者:
以色列的价值还在于有更多的新人和劳动力,这些不是日本短时间就能积累起来的,就算新建了一堆厂,没有劳动力就没有税收,当初去攻打土鸡,目的之一也是土鸡的劳动力。而且就算放掉以色列,因为小巴高铁的存在,日本也没有什么占领的价值。所谓对EC利益最大化的做法,实际上就是拉仇恨不讨好的行为= =
我们现在已经有两块高铁了,就算波兰也只有一块,在占一块,不是向波兰发展,而是像曾经占有4块高铁的毛子发展
已经有2个高铁了 再打日本高铁是鸡肋
加剧EC的负面国际形象
多一处起义需要镇压



选项二:不进攻日本
也有n多小选项
1.坯体哦
优点:不会引起战争
缺点:坯体哦未必能成功.同时中国本身得不到任何利益.
支持者:
支持坯体哦,不支持直接开战,当然对方不接受那就没办法了以防万一日本导向敌对联盟直接进攻本土,毕竟咱觉得树敌不能太多,不能以现实恩怨来决定游戏。

反对者:
坯体哦日本的唯一作用就是防止被进攻,只有在中国占领日本高铁的情况下才是有益于中国的.否则只会使某些玩家或者军团得益,同时很多玩家或军团会被拉走改国籍,太多太多的经验表明,改了国籍的军团,对中国来说,与外国人军团无异,只能算是友好的外国人军团而已.国家利益实际上是受损的

怕拉仇恨就别去坯体哦,而应该是去拉拢土著做ATO,类似现在对印度的做法。坯体哦和强占人家资源是一样的拉仇恨,而且对国家来讲,坯体哦的经济利益为0,不如强占高资源。扶持韩国进攻日本也是同理,拉了仇恨还没有经济利益。

外籍打反无罪


2.扶持傀儡韩国,然后韩国进攻日本
优点:不会引起战争
缺点:未必能成功.同时中国本身得不到任何利益.
支持者:
让韩国进攻日本,日本的高铁对我们没什么用...............给一个缓冲点吧
坯体哦或让棒子进攻的好处与占领九州基本一致,并非对中国毫无利益

反对者:
坯体哦再牢固也不如实际利益换取来的牢固,扶植韩国成本太大了。不符合我方利益



3.什么也不干
优点:不会引起战争
缺点:一块肥肉放走了
支持者:
反對開戰,未來臺灣有可能有新人潮,以臺灣日本RL的好關係在遊戲內成為萌友幾率不低,不要為日後的不和諧埋下種子

出于避嫌的角度,还是不要进攻的好,可以考虑租借9州,NAP啥的,咱们现在名声不好,此刻正好可以刷声望。。。。。。而且现在日本有不少台湾和大陆人,难免会引起内部纠纷吧
感觉现在坯体哦日本的既得利益者在想办法说服中国不要去碰日本,以便他们独占高铁资源的经济利益

请问伊朗和以色列的税收多还是日本越南税收多,打日本根本毫无意义,无非是进一步恶化ec的国际形象罢了,所谓的国家利益,别只是愤青的一厢情愿吧
没有利益的事情没必要做 游戏就要按照游戏的规则来 趋利避害 别把现实中的某些情绪带进来 反对进攻日本
因为要高钻,去打越南,因为要高铁,去打日本;
这都TM什么傻逼逻辑?
打越南无非多一块起义区罢了,高钻利用价值几乎是0。
还嫌起义不够多是不是,你们这帮弱智的政客!




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